Windows Phone 8 & Windows RT

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Hello-

I know this has been addressed some on comments in other threads, but wanted to start a new one for updated info. I'd love to see a CE app for windows RT. I'm currently using the family safety feature on my MS surface, which works pretty well, but a CE app would be great.

Also, any chance of getting CE for WP8? with the move from the CE kernel to the NT kernel, I'm assuming that WP8 is different to develop for than past versions, it also seems that with the phone/tablet/desktop integration that Windows 8 has brought about that there could be potential for a "master" CE app. I know RT and WP8 don't have a ton of market share right now, but MS isn't going anywhere anytime soon and the lack of apps for these devices seems to be the biggest hole in CE's coverage right now. Thanks for what you do!
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Thanks, Brent! We don't currently have any work prioritized for WP8 or RT, but we do keep an eye on requests that come through here and market trends.

I do encourage anyone who is interested in this to please comment on the thread and poke us from time to time if you haven't heard anything.

With the development currently being worked on I don't see us looking to add any new new projects - as both of these would be - for several months at least, but if I hear anything I'll try to keep this thread up to date.
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Bummed that you guys don't have anything in the pipe now but thanks for the update. Hopefully MS will get some love soon!

Ironic that Microsoft is now the one trying to catch up to Apple in developer interest and apps, no one would have seen that coming 8 years ago!

Thanks for all you do.
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I'd love a Windows RT app.
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Noah Kiser

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Interested in a purchasing a Windows Surface RT - BUT that is contingent on CE compatibility. Would love to see this in the works!
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We need a RT app too!!!!
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Kevin Rowan

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The Surface 2 just launched recently and I am planning on getting one in the next few weeks. I work at a church and would really love to make sure I have some form of accountability software on it to protect myself, and also to protect myself in ministry.

CE seems to be the only accountability software company to even be entertaining the idea.

Is there any progress on that front? I would be willing to beta test.
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dfinkner

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bought the tablet of my dreams (Windows Surface). But there is no accountability software! Hope to see it come out soon!
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Holly

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My son has a Windows Surface, and we're very disappointed that CE can't support it.


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Mark Joubert

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Please consider offering this for windows rt and windows 8 - its not just a matter of you guys doing it - its a matter of there being no reasonable filter or accountability software on this platform AT ALL.  You would be pioneering something that many people need and something I really want. 
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Patrick McAfee

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I too am posting a request.  I sent an email out about a month ago requesting this, and I'm requesting again.  Could you please make a Windows Phone 8 / RT app for this?  There are plenty of people out there using Windows products that use more than a PC.  I sure could use this.  I'm paying for the service and would like to be able to use it on ALL of my devices.  I need this and I'm sure others do.  Please consider supporting this!!!!  I'll even start developing an app if that's what it takes to get it on this platform!
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Hey Guys,

Sorry about the long radio silence on this particular issue. In this particular case there has been a LOT of background (stealth mode) work going on our mobile products. The good news is that we are closing in on some really awesome products for both Android and iOS devices.

IF (highlight the IF part) the Windows mobile platform continues to evolve how we expect it to, then we may be able to port the new technology coming out for Android and iOS over to the Windows mobile platform. (Woohoo!)

For now we really appreciate you guys hanging in there. We hear the feedback loud and clear.

On a side note, if you or anyone you know would love to use their skills to help protect people online, Covenant Eyes is looking for skilled developers among other professions.

http://www.covenanteyes.com/job/software-engineer/

Thanks guys

- John
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I'll throw my $.02 in the mix... Having an RT app would be awesome. Thanks!
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Cory

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Please support the Windows mobile platform.  There are millions of users and I personally know of many friends who would buy the app in a heartbeat.  Hopefully CE has noticed share growth of Windows Phone and tablet to now be high enough to justify the dev work.  Please support Windows Phone and make it a priority!
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Covenant Eyes for Windows phone is something we would love to do, yes. 

Covenant Eyes for Windows phone is something we would likely do, maybe? (hopefully)

We hear the demand for a Windows phone app loud and clear. The best possible news (as I referenced above) is that a lot of the work we are doing on our Android and iOS platforms may be portable to the Windows phone platform (which would be awesome!)

Here is the tough part though. Windows phone as an OS is growing, but it still barely covers 3% of all mobile users. Those 3% of people are very important to us, important enough to even be having conversations about how we can reach them in the future and what it looks like to help them out.

At the end of the day however we must as a business make decisions about what gets priority. We unfortunately cannot be developing for everything at all times, so in all likelihood a Windows Phone 
solution is still a ways off.

I know it is not what you wanted to hear but I hope having communication from us (even "bad news") is better than nothing at all.


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I don't really know what kind of presence CE has outside of the US, but the WP market is FAR greater than the 3% mentioned above.  This is not some legacy OS that has been hovering in the low-single digits for the better part of a decade.  WP is an up and coming OS that has seen tremendous growth and momentum in many parts of the world, particularly in Brazil, Australia, and Europe.  There is more to the mobile world than the United States.
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Nathan,

Thanks for caring enough to post here. We know that WP is a really cool platform that has been generating buzz recently. Unfortunately all of the statistics that I have been able to find up until this point demonstrate that it's rise towards major contender will be perhaps slow. 

Regardless the more important concept here is that we are not against creating anything for Windows phone. But as a company we only have so many resources to devote to any given product at any given time. Some REALLY cool stuff is coming out (soonish) for Android and iOS which we hope will eventually create a bridge to the WP environment. 

In the meantime I pulled up a few recent links on Google about WP's current market share. Hopefully this helps reinforce some of the claims that we are making. 

Thanks


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems

http://redmondmag.com/articles/2014/07/08/windows-phone-market-share.aspx

http://bgr.com/2014/05/28/ios-vs-android-vs-windows-phone/

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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled
Covenant Eyes For Windows Phones.


Hi I heard you have gotten the software to develop Covenant Eyes for Windows 8 Phones. Please develop this. Thanks.
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I have to get a Windows phone for work in October when my upgrade comes. I have been very pleased with CE, and I am not thrilled at the idea of having to change accountability software just so I can have a specific phone. PLEASE DEVELOP THE SOFTWARE FOR WINDOWS PHONES SOON!!! Thanks.
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Yes, please develop software for Windows Phones. As others have noted, this is a growing market and there really is no alternative software/app. Please consider this. Thank you
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I was really disappointed to discover my new Windows based phone is not supported by CE. Since joining CE I have had the best five months of my life in terms of porn. It has been such a relief to have this protection.

I know this is my fault and it was made clear on the website. But I missed it. There are lots of us out here who very much need you to come up with something here.  Thank you for considering it.
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I have been monitoring CE and Windows Phone topics for several years. I previously owned one and the ONLY issue I had was the complete lack of any kind of accountability or app blocking or internet filtering or parental controls that Microsoft refuses to consider. I had to switch to an iPhone and it comes with its own website/app blocker as well as CE. Unfortunately the most common CE response I have seen are two things: 1) Windows Phone does not have enough market share and there is not enough demand for CE for this product and 2) Microsoft development and OS for Windows Phone will not allow most solutions that CE might be able to use.

I'm afraid I don't anticipate the CE response to be much different this time, other than "we are considering it." This has been the CE response for at least...2? years or longer, but I think they're pretty much boxed in here as to what they can do. 

Anyway hang in there my friend, I got out of Windows Phone only because I had to, other than this issue it's a great platform.

EDIT: I admit I had not read John's reply from 4 months ago at the time of this writing, so consider this a bit of a repeat of some of what he said...
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Thanks Eric, you have spelled out my strong perception of what is happening. This is little consolation to windows phone users like me who desperately need accountability software on their phones and cannot afford to change.

I ask the question, is Microsoft aware of the life changing possibilities of this software? On the law of averages there must be many people out there who feel like me. Considering the size of Microsoft it is probable that a similar proportion will be employed by them.

Providing the functionality to develop accountability software may not be commercially attractive or perhaps against design. However, given Microsoft's reputation for supporting minority groups with challenging issues, I believe it is in their interest to research ways around the problem.

I believe internet pornography to be a computer virus of the mind. Companies spend millions on antivirus system development but IT porn is a hidden threat to the the minds of millions. Once addicted to its destructive influence, a person is under the control of an industry who promote drug use and child exploitation.

With the above in mind, reasons for not developing accountability software (with respect) become excuses.

All IT companies as stakeholders in the internet have a responsibility to protect the users not just from computer viruses and identity theft but also from mind integrity theft.  
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As a college student and a member of the up and coming generation, this needs to happen. I am aware that tablets and duel running PC's create a complexity of issues, however when you walk into a lecture hall you will see at least 1/3 of the students using tablet PC's to take notes. These devices are very portable and basically give internet access to students anywhere, making an area of temptation basically a 24 hour thing. I am in church leadership as a student with our college ministry, and to say the least, raising up Men of God into leadership is made impossible by the destruction that pornography has done to the majority of our hearts. This will be one of the hardest battles my generation will face, and it is a direct strategy of the enemy to tear down a generation God is calling up in powerful ways. Please be a part of paving the way for revival.
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Thanks, Matthew. I appreciate you chiming in on this. Covenant Eyes currently has coverage for iPads, Android tablets, and the Windows Surface Pro. That covers a big percentage of the tablet market, but you're right--it's not universal. We're constantly weighing the time to develop a solution for <fill in the blank with a presently non-covered platform> against the market saturation of that platform. We're always aiming to deploy our development teams on the most strategic work possible. Threads like this one help us to know where customers want coverage, so please, keep it up. 

Having said that, I'll offer a challenge to our broader help forum community. If you know Internet temptation is a danger for you, ensure that a given device can be covered with some kind of accountability software (even if not CE) prior to purchase. I know there are times when such things are beyond your control (e.g. a work-issued device), but I think those are the exception--not the rule.

Again, thanks for the post, and please keep it up.  
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Patrick,

Thank you, you guys are quick in response. You are correct as that is a majority of the tablet platform. My previous comment came out of a place of not knowing the full breadth of your coverage. The only article I had found (with only about 30 min of research) was 2013 Christmas shopping advisory.

This does cover the majority of the student use and as always I applaud everything this company does. The big issue with buying a CE or other regulated device is that most of these men and women are not walking in purity and go through this transformation after already having a device. After that it becomes an issue of having to sell and buy a different device, quite a hurdle for most college students. That being said I know there is not much you all can do there, and I appreciate what you try to do. Keep doing more.

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Hello Patrick-

Challenge accepted. At the same time, with MS moving to universal apps for mobile, tablet, laptop & desktop platforms in Windows 10 it would be great for CE to complete their trifecta of apps (Windows, Android & Apple). Any plans for this? We've been patiently waiting...

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Brent, Yes. If indeed Microsoft moves to genuinely universal apps (which, honestly all-but-requires a universal OS), it would be a no-brainer for us. The other possibility is that Windows Phone gains adequate marketshare to warrant this kind of time investment on our part. In either case, we're open to it.
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Thanks for your openness and the great work you guys do. I was under the understanding that windows 10 was a big step toward a universal OS, but without Windows 10 Mobile released yet, I'm guessing that's hard to say. Have you been able to research any new opportunities afforded by Redmond's new OS?

Thanks again.

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I just wanted to make sure that this was still alive.  I'm a windows phone user (3 years now), and realize that most folks don't support these devices.  However, from working with some other folks, developing for windows seemed to be one of the easier devices.  Not sure if that changes with 10, but hopefully when it comes out, you'll be able to do the same.  Great concept, and seems to be a great project.  If the purpose is to help all guys, this is something that could greatly use your help.  Hope you guys can expand to the windows phone one day.
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Hi Rich,
    Thanks for the post! I will check with our mobile team and get back to you as soon as possible with a definite answer.

Samantha