Will an option similar to the Block/Allow list return? This option was one of the main reasons we chose to use CE as our family filter.

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The Block/Allow list was a major reason I chose covenant eyes as my family's filtering program. This loss will most likely cause us to have to look elsewhere for a different filtering program. Is there any possibility a filtering option such as the Block/Allow list will return? 
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James,

Thank you for using Covenant Eyes. We consider it a privilege to help others protect their families.

As you probably know, we are moving forward with the Screen AccountabilityTM concept. One way to focus on the development and implementation of that concept is to simplify the blocking feature. At this time blocking is powered by CleanBrowsing and does not include the Block/Allow list. You can read our full explanation at https://www.covenanteyes.com/support-articles/understanding-covenant-eyes-blocking/

Thank you for sharing your thoughts! I'll pass them along to the decision makers.

Robert

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FWIW - I would agree with Robert that the lack of Block/Allow list is going to cause issues for myself as well. I use the filtering not just for adult content, but for general time wasting content as well. That wouldn't be supported in the new system.

I've never had good luck running 2 separate filtering softwares (ie - CE and Freedom or K9) and would appreciate the ability to do it all in one place.

Thanks!
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Tom Park

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In you go under settings in IOS you can specifically limit access to certain websites. I also had this concern. This should prevent you from accessing those sites.
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Tim LeCroy

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I agree that this new filter is not helpful. It is blocking sites that it shouldn't and won't allow me to block other sites, like social media. I'm seriously thinking of switching to another company, and I've been with Covenant Eyes for over a decade!
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Hi, Tim. Thanks for posting here. 

We hear you loud and clear, and we're working on building the block/allow capabilities into Screen Accountability. In the meantime, you can stick with Internet Accountability until we have all the features you need in Screen Accountability. We know that Screen Accountability doesn't yet contain all the features some folks want/need. That's why we've left the option to use either open for now. 

We really value this kind of critique, though, as it lights a good fire beneath us to get on developing custom Block/Allow lists quickly. 

Thank you for taking the time to let us know what you're looking for. 

Patrick
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This is a related issue I believe. I actually decided to sign up for a CleanBrowsing paid account, which gives me the ability to manage block/allow on my home router. I then found that the Covenant Eyes filter on my macOS devices (and presumably Windows devices if I had any) was changing the DNS settings from my CleanBrowsing DNS IP to the generic Covenant Eyes CleanBrowsing DNS IP.

So, my questions are as follows:

1) Is there a way to use Covenant Eyes with the paid CleanBrowing service?
2) Instead of re-inventing the wheel, why not just integrate CovenantEyes with CleanBrowsing paid version ($5/mo) to provide everyone their block/allow lists again?

Thanks.
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Josh,

Thanks for reaching out.

I don't have an immediate answer, but I feel like someone on our team tried that as well. I'll try to track that down and get back to you with what I learn.

I do know that with our latest versions we've had trouble syncing/working in scenarios where people are using OpenDNS in the way that you're using CleanBrowsing on your router.

I'll convey your suggestions, and get back to you with what I learn.

Robert
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Josh,

As you noticed, the Covenant Eyes program wants to use a specific DNS setting and will try to correct/override other DNS configurations. That lines up exactly with what you were seeing and what we've seen in some cases with OpenDNS.

I was wrong about a team member trying CleanBrowsing's paid version along with Covenant Eyes. I went ahead and put in a request for some testing to be done. I don't know the timeline for that testing, but I will post here again when I have an update.

Robert
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I echo the concerns voiced here. I use the block list to block sites which can contain content I don't wish to be exposed to or have caused me to stumble in the past. Managing blacklists on each device is not a desired solution because it is time consuming and tedious.

My technical suggestion would be to expose the Clean Browsing paid version controls through Covenant Eyes.

Whatever method is taken, I hope to see a solution soon!

Thanks,