Install as system app

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Could there be an option to easily install CE as a system app or at least run when in safemode? That's a loophole that needs to be plugged!
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Samuel McIlheran

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chewiebacca

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I've had the same idea myself. I have a working theory (yet to be tested) that you could root the phone, copy the apk to the system apps directory, and achieve this. But that's quite a bit more technical than the standard user is ever going to be able to achieve. 
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Samuel McIlheran

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I actually just attempted this, but couldn't succeed in the root. My phone now rejects all the flash images I try ever since the nougat update. At this point, I deem Chastity worth the suffering, so I'm just going to toss my android and go to a dumbphone for a while. The system app solution would still be fantastic though. Is the ios version more secure? I'm thinking of switching eventually if it does CE better.
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As CE on iOS is right now, you can do really 2 things to have a secure smartphone.  You can:
1) Go for very few apps and run the CE browser.  Use parental restrictions to lock down Safari and avoid downloading apps from the App Store. There are a few you could download, but due to the prevalence of in-app browsers for iOS it may be easier to just not use apps at all and rely on CE browser to be the gateway to the web.
2) Go for downloading more apps, but use the iPhone web restrictions to limit your sites to a select few, if any. iPhone web restrictions are system-wide, locking you out of sites no matter what app or browser you use.  You can't really surf the web, but you can download most apps without worrying about in-app browsers (by most, I mean normally innocent-seeming apps that would be fine if not for the in-app browser).  

Or,
3) Wait for the new version of CE to come out, which monitors the entire phone to some degree. Not sure on the release date.
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chewiebacca

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Nougat has new boot verification checks to guard against low level rootkits. There are ways around it but I'm not entirely sure how they work yet. I've stuck with Marshmallow on my Nexus 5X. I also use a combination of Funamo and Covenant Eyes. Funamo is capable of locking safe-mode down on Marshmallow and older versions of Android.

But yes in an ideal world CE would monitor the entire Android device. I really wish they could proxy all the traffic or something like they do on the PC. If the expanded coverage on iOS is significantly better I might just switch to an iPhone next cycle.
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Steel

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I thought they did proxy all traffic? At least on the Nexus 7i had, it seemed to proxy everything...(?)
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Michael Smith

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Another idea that might be a short-term work-around: have CE log whenever Android reboots, or can CE scan an Android system log and make note of any Safe mode boots and make a note of it in the accountability report? Even if it cannot monitor in safe mode, if it can at least report safe mode boots, that would provide some level of accountability.

This loophole really needs to be addressed somehow, please!

Thanks,
Michael
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CE folks, any progress on this? This loophole renders your Android app completely useless. This has been a known issue for at least 3.5 YEARS and still no fix? Come on guys!